Does God take a stand against homosexuality?

Just 2 people who have made the commitment to choose to love each other no matter what, through good times and bad-though we fail MISERABLY at times. :) However, we don't plan on ending it until Christ ends His relationship with the church. ;) ("The Sacred Marriage" by John Piper is a great book that talks about that!)

Just 2 people who have made the commitment to choose to love each other no matter what, through good times and bad-though we fail MISERABLY at times. 🙂 However, we don’t plan on ending it until Christ ends His relationship with the church. 😉 (“This Momentary Marriage” by John Piper is a great book that talks about that!)

Earlier, I wrote a comment on this article after someone had said that Christians are basically hypocritical in only forming their beliefs against homosexuality from Leviticus & how we don’t follow all the other rules in Leviticus. I had only planned on sharing verses from the Bible when I wrote:

Not Leviticus so much as Romans 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; … who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. -Romans 1

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Of course, that stirred up ALL kinds of comments & questions though & I just decided to respond to them all (though, I can’t seem to get my comment to post right now!) & thought I would put my response on here because I think it is an important topic & while I have my beliefs, I do understand why people are backing up both sides & why I believe the way I believe as I know that many “Christians” (not saying that those who believe differently aren’t, just that as a whole, not necessarily everyone who claims to be is) don’t necessarily agree with me. Well, here it is:

I guess I’ll just answer all those questions in one & be done. Sorry for the length, just trying to fit it all in. I understand not everybody will agree with me & that’s ok. I have nothing against you. This is what I believe. This is coming from someone who grew up in a family that had I not experienced God personally would be VERY turned away from Him. Thankfully, God loved me through all of that, has healed me miraculously-even of a broken bone the very night a dr. told me it might not ever heal it was broken so bad, and has been there for me at times when I literally had no one else to turn to. I understand not everybody has been miraculously healed like I have & many people’s experience of God has only seemed like heartache when He’s allowed you to go through times that no human should ever have to face & He has seemed silent when you wish He would make His presence known as some painful, discouraging situations I’ve had to face even & even with all God has done to & for me at times, I fail to always obey & think He has my best in mind so I can only imagine it would be much harder for those who haven’t had some of the experiences I have. I can only pray that God will be able to meet your needs & reveal Himself in a way that shows you how much He loves you & hope that He’ll use me to reach some of you through this or else there wouldn’t be any point in writing back. So please just understand my heart through all of this as I have no hatred towards any of you. Really.

Now to answer those questions…

Romans is in the new testament. Those laws you talk about were given to the Israelites in the old testament & while honestly I don’t understand why He gave all of them, I know He has our best in mind & He had their best in mind at the time. If you don’t have a standard or a stable “moral compass”, what do you go by to determine what’s right & wrong? People change all the time & different opinions are formed & based by what people experience in life. God & His Word do not change & if I don’t use something I believe to be the reason for mine & everyone else’s entire existence, all you’re hearing is my opinion or others’ opinions & like I said, they change. Who’s to say one’s opinion is more important than someone else’s? You speak of tolerance & yet you have no tolerance for these owners or me who believe differently than you.

To answer your question earlier of what’s the difference being “born” gay…I don’t believe people are born gay, just like I don’t believe people are born liars. Black, white, color…those are not choices. Lying is a choice. Choosing to live out a gay lifestyle is a choice. Albeit, I know that those who normally do choose that & are prone to that sin have normally had a hard past that has made them more prone to that sin, just like I struggle with sins that you or people who struggle with a gay lifestyle might not struggle with. Honestly, I have 3 friends who have chosen to live that lifestyle & I love them dearly & knowing their pasts makes it very understandable why they struggle with it & even in the church- especially in the church, I would hope they could be honest with their struggle with that sin & loved through the struggle & loved for who they are-struggles & all. Just like I hope I am. Unfortunately, until gay people choose to “come out of the closet”, a lot of people don’t even realize they’re struggling with the sin & being human, might not love them like they should, but know that the sin is wrong & judge them foolishly. I’m sorry for the times I have judged people foolishly as I know I have my own struggles & sins.

Basically, I believe sinning is any time you think your ways are better than God’s ways, thinking you know better than God about something & not trusting He has your (general you) best in mind. He’s our Creator. He knows our purpose & what’s best for us more than we do, whether or not we understand why He tells us what He does. Now that I have my own kids, I feel like I’m starting to understand that on a whole new level. They might think it’s fun to run out in the street & think I’m ruining their fun by telling them they can’t & they’ll get disciplined if they do, but I know that if I don’t train them to not run in the street, they could get hit by a car-it’s a natural consequence of them thinking they know better than their mom. Being older than them & having more experience than them has taught me that. They don’t understand it yet, but someday they will & they’ll know I said not to because I love them.

God makes “rules” because He loves us. We might not understand them right now, but if we begin to understand His heart, we can know He does it with our best in mind. When you let any sin grow, it’s going to ultimately lead to death in some way. “Bitterness makes the heart sick.” Or as others have put it, it’s basically swallowing poison while hoping the other person dies. God says that every other sin is outside the body, but sexual sin is against your own body (1st Corinthians 6:18-20). If everybody chose homosexuality, then the world would cease to exist. There would be no future generations, there would be death. Aids & STD’s would be more rampant. & we wouldn’t have the picture of God’s love for the church that a man & woman are SUPPOSED to be showing when they get married (I know we all fail at that in our marriages though). So, as with any other sins, He’s saying not to do that because He loves us. You could go into this about ANY sins, just already know this is long & to give an example. When we continually choose to sin-ANY sin, not just homosexuality, we’re choosing to believe that our ways are better than God’s ways & to continually walk out in disobedience to God ultimately leads to eternal death-hell. He already sent His Son to take our punishment of sins that we all deserve for being sinners, but if we continue to walk in sin & choose to walk our own way, we’re taking His death for granted & our walking into our own deaths. God made sex to be a beautiful thing within His boundaries because He knows that when you have sex with someone you become “one” with them. Outside of a loving (well, marriage is supposed to be anyways) lifetime commitment, people get hurt very badly-as you can see in the world. He made it to be very enjoyably (obviously), just as He intended this world/His creation to be a beautiful, enjoyable place, but we’ve failed to walk within His good boundaries & listened to the lies of His enemy, Satan that only comes to kill, steal, & destroy (John 10:10) believing God doesn’t have our good in mind & have failed to realize it’s a spiritual battle we face, not one against flesh & blood (Ephesians 6:12).

Why do you think there’s such an attack on marriage? Satan hates ANYthing that can be a picture of Christ’s love for the church & that’s what marriage is SUPPOSED to be (Ephesians 5:21-6:4). He’ll use anything to destroy it- divorce, homosexuality, abuse, pornography, etc. The Christians who believe what God says just know that to “support” homosexuality (a.k.a. sin) is to support something that goes against God’s ways & when you start supporting any sin, you’re choosing to support Satan & his agenda & that ultimately leads to death.